July 1st, 2019 · 92 minutes
This week the Summer of Fun goes old school, as two of Jason's colleagues from back in the 1990s compare Apple's many transitions over the years to the ones Apple and its developers and users face today. Also, we wonder what happens to the movies and TV shows that aren't available via streaming, and if that means that important cultural works are in danger of fading away.
Guest Starring: Andy Ihnatko and Shelly Brisbin
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This episode was recorded June 24, 2019. So if you're looking for Jony Ive commentary, you won't find any.