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    #586: An LLM in the Woods

    October 21st, 2025 · 107 minutes

    Jason has spent a little while with the new M5 iPad Pro, M5 MacBook Pro, and M5 Vision Pro (with accessories!) and we review them all. Also, Apple's deal with F1 crosses the finish line.

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    Links and Show Notes

    How to Rebuild Spotlight Index on macOS Tahoe - 3 Ways
    Maybe it’s time to rename the Apple TV 4K – Six Colors
    Apple’s True Intentions in Hollywood—With Top Exec Eddy Cue - The Ringer
    M5 iPad Pro review: Promise fulfilled – Six Colors
    Connected #574: Inspired by the Pouch - Relay
    M5 MacBook Pro review: The ultimate computer? – Six Colors
    Msty Studio
    Apple Vision Pro: PlayStation VR2 Sense controller in November, Logitech Muse and standalone Dual Knit Band available to order - 9to5Mac
    M5 Vision Pro, Dual Kit Band, PSVR2 controller review: Apple’s experiment continues – Six Colors
    Apple is the exclusive new broadcast partner for Formula 1® in the U.S. - Apple
    Apple wants “to own a sport end to end” – Six Colors
    Downstream #105: Another Piece of Red Yarn - Relay
    Upgrade 586: An LLM in the Woods - YouTube