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#171: Really Weird Chess Game

December 11th, 2017 · 82 minutes

What do Amazon's battles with Google and Apple say about the strategies of the tech giants? Also, Jony Ive returns to the White Room, and a meeting with the hosts of Jason and Myke's favorite podcasts brings some perspective regarding the connection between podcasters and their listeners.

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