Why don’t the worlds of mainstream tech and accessibility tech ever seem to collide? Shelly, who keeps one foot in each, wants to know. She and her guests from both worlds chew over the news and trends of the day, mixing in an accessibility perspective.



#21: Deep Dev Dive

July 9th, 2019 · 59 minutes

Research for my documentary, "36 Seconds that Changed Everything: How the iPhone Learned to Talk" included interviews with two longtime iOS developers, each of whom took an early interest in accessibility. We talked about the process of developing accessible apps, why they do it and how users respond to what they build.

Guest Starring: Matt Gemmell and Marco Arment

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